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Does God cause people to murder?
Patricia Arnold | Posted February 9, 2008 10:00 PM
What caused Charles Lee Thornton to shoot up a city council meeting in Kirkwood, Missouri Thursday night? As he left his home, he reportedly called out, "To God be the glory!"
Patricia Arnold is a veteran broadcast journalist and author and the Spirituality Editor of The Daily Voice.
To many, God and violence seem mutually exclusive. To others, the two are synonymous: Thursday night, as Charles Lee Thornton left his Kirkwood, Missouri home, he reportedly called out, "To God be the glory!"
The next thing anyone heard Thornton say was, "Shoot the mayor!" as he fatally shot two police officers and three city councilpersons. His sixth victim, Kirkwood Mayor Mike Swoboda, is in critical condition.
Thornton has been described by a friend as an educated, positive, church-going man who had been socked with 150 tickets for parking his commercial vehicles in a residential zone. Neither his rowdy appeals to the city council nor legal action in the courts had relieved him of $18,000 in fines and code violations.
As Thornton walked into the Kirkwood city council meeting, another man, 1,260 miles away, was being held without bond, accused of threatening to "shed the blood of the innocent" at the Super Bowl. According to the Associated Press, court documents claim that Kurt William Havelock drove within sight of the University of Phoenix stadium with an AR-15 assault style rifle and 200 rounds of ammunition. He was angry because he had been denied a liquor license.
These are merely the latest in a series of incidents that led me to conclude that there is a link between violent behavior and a person's perceptions of God--more accurately, a person's misperceptions of what God is and what God does. Far too many, particularly those who take the Bible literally, believe that God is vengeful, conditionally forgiving, solves problems by severely punishing or killing people, and mandates the live sacrifice of innocents.
I drew this conclusion from my observations as a journalist and spiritual sleuth. However, until minutes ago, I knew of no scientific research. Then I discovered a March 5, 2007 news release slugged: "When God sanctions violence, believers act more aggressively."
Researchers at Brigham Young University (BYU) in Provo, Utah and Vrije University in the Netherlands conducted two studies to determine whether reading violent scriptures increases aggressive behavior, especially among those who believe that the Bible is entirely true. The first study involved BYU students. The second study involved students in Amsterdam.
Both groups were instructed to read a passage adapted from the King James Bible that described a woman's brutal murder and her husband's revenge on her attackers. Half the participants were told that the passage came from the Old Testament, the other half that it came from an ancient scroll found by archeologists. One version included a sentence in which God commanded his followers to take arms against others.
According to the news release, researchers found that both religious and secular students who were told that the passage they read came from the Bible were more aggressive to their study partners. This aggression increased when the participants read that God had directly sanctioned violence. In fact, researchers noticed a higher level of aggression among believers than among secularists.
"Even among our participants who were not religiously devout, exposure to God-sanctioned violence increased subsequent aggression," said University of Michigan professor Brad Bushman, lead author of the study published in the March 2007 issue of Psychological Science. "That the effect was found in such a sample may attest to the insidious power of exposure to literary scriptural violence."
What's more dangerous is the fact that most of us don't understand the implications of what we believe. Let's take the Adam and Eve story, for example. These prehistoric beings were born as adults, did not have the benefit of maturing through childhood, and were kicked out of the only home they knew because they acted like disobedient children. At minimum, this story says that God is not forgiving and possibly excessively punitive. Is that what we believe about God--or is that what we believe because it's in the Bible?
How about the Flood story: Do we believe that God is vengeful and genocidal, or do we believe it because it's in the Bible? Do we believe that God is sadistic (Revelations), homophobic (Leviticus), racist (Ham, et. al.), filicidal (crucifixion story) and misogynistic (too many stories to count) and promotes violence--or do we believe it because it's in the Bible? We have a choice and what we choose to believe reflects in our behavior.
Bottom line: If we believe that God can be inhumane, which is the portrayal in many of these stories, we can't expect humans to act more benevolently--and we certainly can't expect the headlines to improve any time soon, either.
Havelock dramatically revealed this. He discovered, as he approached the stadium, that his core belief was that killing innocents is diabolical, so instead, he turned himself in.
To God be the glory!
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Pat Arnold commented on Does God cause people to murder?:
Frankly, I like msyoung's perspective of the Bible as "the greatest love story ever told". However, ... -
FRE commented on Does God cause people to murder?:
There are many passages in the Bible that, if taken literally, could be interpreted to mean that Go... -
Denrique commented on Does God cause people to murder?:
Man's belief in God is definitely reflected in his behavior and unfortunately that means even when h... -
msyoung commented on Does God cause people to murder?:
I respectfully disagree that the Bible teaches violence. The Bible is the greatest love story ever ... -
Jason commented on Does God cause people to murder?:
I don't think God tells people to murder. I think crazy people misinterpret God for their own twist...



February 9, 2008 11:12 PM
I don't think God tells people to murder. I think crazy people misinterpret God for their own twisted purposes. The guy who killed those people in Missouri is just as crazy as the suicide bombers in the MidEast or the people who kill abortion doctors in the name of saving life. Religion is not a bad thing but these religious zealots of all faiths are dangerous!!!
God doesn't want us to kill people and any religious leader that tells you otherwise is crazy.
February 10, 2008 7:42 PM
I respectfully disagree that the Bible teaches violence. The Bible is the greatest love story ever written. It is about God's love for mankind, and what he did to reconcile man to Him. The first 5 books are basically told in parables. The Bible was written by men who were inspired by God. Could a man and woman have been created as adults? Why not? God does not have to follow the rules of nature. He created the rules. But Genesis shows us how God, who hates sin but loves man, allowed man to make animal sacrifices to atone for their sins. But man continued to sin, man continued to fight wars and kill their enemies, and even God's prophets. So He chose to come to earth as a man to teach us how He wants us to live. I have to admit, I've read the Bible religiously since 1985 when I joined Trinity. Pastor Wright is a biblical scholar. But I am not familiar with the story of the man whose wife was killed and he's seeking revenge?
February 10, 2008 11:09 PM
Man's belief in God is definitely reflected in his behavior and unfortunately that means even when he commits a crime. You see, most folks believe that they would be forgiven for robbing and killing, so, they do. That's where they form this ridiculous correlation between sadistic crimes and God. Like, Osama bin Laden's son talking about...his father is doing what God wants him to do.
What I don't understand is how the heck these people live with themselves in the aftermath
-Denrique
February 11, 2008 1:32 AM
There are many passages in the Bible that, if taken literally, could be interpreted to mean that God has commanded His people to kill others. For example, there are many passages in which the Hebrews engaged in genocide, presumably at God's command. But consider this: The OT contains the history of the Hebrew people; it was written by them. People generally write their history to make themselves look good and justify their actions. So, it should come as no surprise that the Hebrews wrote part of the OT to rationalize their genocidal behavior.
I don't doubt that many of the writers of the Bible were divinely inspired. However, I very much doubt that all of them were. There was nothing to prevent influential writers from having their books included in the Bible. It wasn't 'till the 4th century that there was agreement on which books should be included in the Bible and there is no reason to suppose that the decisions about which books to include were perfect.
Historically speaking, it is comparatively recent that it has been widely believed that the Bible, as orginally written, is the infallable and inerrant word of God.
I'm quite certain that most of the people here are well aware that the Bible was used to justify slavery of the most inhumane sort. People are more than capable of using the Bible to justify almost anything.
February 13, 2008 12:27 AM
Frankly, I like msyoung's perspective of the Bible as "the greatest love story ever told". However, as FRE pointed out, neither Bible history nor a contemporary reading of the text confirms that this is true.
Out of curiosity, I conducted a cursory search of the first five books of the Bible and encountered no fewer than 46 verses that alluded to or commanded punishment by violent death. The phrase repeated most often was, "...shall be put to death."
What crimes warranted this punishment? Well, it varied from murder (Num 35:16-18) to blaspheming (Lev 24:16) and adultery (Lev 20:10) to being a stranger who walked by a temple (Num 1:51). Kidnapping and selling a person are punishable by death (Lev 21:16), as is cursing or hitting a parent (21:15 & 21:17). The most troubling offense? Working on Saturday is punishable by death. And yes, there was the outright call to violence: "...the people of the land shall stone him with stones." (Lev 20:2)
Even if these are allegorical references, it's easy to see why Mr. Thornton and others believe that killing people is an acceptable way to solve problems.
For those of us who believe that God is Love, this definitely is no love story.