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News Editor | Posted May 6, 2008 10:31 AM
It's another big election day on the campaign trail. Voters in North Carolina and Indiana go to the polls today to decide between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Obama leads in the polls in North Carolina and Clinton leads in the polls in Indiana. But we want to know -- What do you think will happen today?

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chris commented on Here we go again...:
Hey Ms Purl Gurl, Ms Okpulot Taha from the infamous Choctaw Nation? The only thing it will cost him... -
Jared commented on Here we go again...:
Hateful indeed Urban World, but, its the same anger we have seen from HRC and Bill and just about ev... -
UrbanWorldOnline commented on Here we go again...:
Purl Gurl You have the right to vote for Clinton. No one should take that away from you. But logica... -
Amber commented on Here we go again...:
No one cares because they know HRC has no chance of winning in November, even is she manages to stea... -
Purl Gurl commented on Here we go again...:
Urban World Online insults my intelligence, "I think that those who don't vote for Barack are eithe...



May 6, 2008 10:44 AM
Same as has been for the last few elections, white women, poor whites, Latino's and gays will vote for HRC, and, blacks will go for Obama. And, HRC will stand up and do what she does best at the end of the night and lie how she is a uniter and not a divider, when all her ads and comments both she and her man and their surrogates say otherwise.
May 6, 2008 11:06 AM
So Jon, what will the black gays do?
May 6, 2008 11:16 AM
Anonymity they will vote with those who suffer most like they do and who do not have the privilege of being gay because they are black and same gender loving.
May 6, 2008 11:49 AM
A news editor for The Daily Voice asks,
"What do you think will happen today?"
I think Clinton will take Indiana by a margin very close to double digits, perhaps eight to nine percentage points. Clinton will close the gap on Obama over in North Carolina. Obama will win North Carolina by a narrow margin, perhaps four to five percentage points.
Clinton is enjoying new momentum and Obama is suffering a loss of momentum. This should be exemplified by results of today's primaries.
Our democratic party primaries should come down to a delegate decision during the democratic convention, a decision of "Who can defeat McCain?"
This is proving to be the most exciting election year of our modern American history. This is true democracy in action. Regardless of who wins, all of this is very healthy for our country. America is energized, America is interested, America is getting its act together, America is proving to our world we are a true democracy.
Our world will enjoy a long awaited sigh of relief when George Bush vacates the Oval Office; his departure will mark the beginning of a new and better era for our country.
Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation
May 6, 2008 12:24 PM
America is energized, America is interested, America is getting its act together, America is proving to our world we are a true democracy.
Which America do you live in? We are tired, drained,overwhelmed and outdone.
May 6, 2008 12:25 PM
INDIANA AND NORTH CAROLINA!
HISTORY WILL BE MADE TODAY WITH YOUR VOTES.
WE NEED CHANGE...BARACK OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!
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May 6, 2008 12:47 PM
What will happen on this day to me. In the spiritual realm God will, will be done. God's favor and blessing is/on Oabama. So today the cites will speak and I pray that the media and the world is open what the Lord is saying. This Obama appoint time no matter what happen after today. God's love and peace my Bother Obama.
May 6, 2008 12:52 PM
Purl Gurl
I would not call it relief to have Mr. and Mrs. Pinocchio in office. Therefore I hope that Senator Obama prevails as he is the best person for the job.
PS:
As a member of the Choctaw Nation can you vote?
One
D of the American Nation
May 6, 2008 12:57 PM
Purl Gurl
I would not call it relief to have Mr. and Mrs. Pinocchio in office. Therefore I hope that Senator Obama prevails as he is the best person for the job.
PS:
As a member of the Choctaw Nation can you vote?
One
D of the American Nation
May 6, 2008 1:11 PM
I'm a little disappointed that Clinton, is polling at 17% with African American's.
It would seem that they are asking for a thrashing.
Anthony
May 6, 2008 1:12 PM
I'm a little disappointed that Clinton, is polling at 17% with African American's.
It would seem that they are asking for a thrashing.
Anthony
May 6, 2008 1:25 PM
Hillary will take Indiana, Barack will take North Carolina. Just as all the pundits, prognosticators, and analyst have been saying for almost FOREVER! This thing is going to the convention where who among us knows what will happen. I dont even think Howard Dean and Donna Brazil know what is going to happen. Just cross your fingers and hope that the blood bath isnt to bad and that we can move forward. Neither party or candidate is going to bring about sweeping changes so just be prepared for a rough 8 years to come folks. Save, Invest, get college degrees if you dont have them. The future is not pretty.
May 6, 2008 1:35 PM
Ro makes an interesting point,
"Which America do you live in? We are tired, drained,overwhelmed and outdone."
Unknowingly, you highlight a cultural difference.
My Choctaw elders taught me to endure, taught me to persevere, taught me to stand my ground and taught me to not mince my words. This is very true for almost all American Indians.
We American Indians are known to be sarcastic, confrontational, even aggressive when needed. Much of this is our matter-of-fact worldview which is often mistaken for an aloof attitude. We tend to dispense with the trivial and focus on reality. We American Indians are also known to challenge and confront each other on a minute-by-minute basis. Ours are lives of contested survival. We do this, we challenge each other not to jockey for positions of power rather to test ourselves for weaknesses and to teach each other how to be stronger, how to endure better. We do this to help ensure tribal health and tribal survival.
As you know, ours is a history of survival in the wilds and ours is a history of Anglos slaughtering us by the tens of millions. We have to be tough, we have to survive or become extinct. As it is, hundreds of our tribes were slaughtered into extinction. Those tribes are forever gone.
Within our culture, our stories are passed down generation-to-generation. Our stories are current and our stories are thousands of years in the making. All of our stories are somehow related to survival, related to strength and endurance. We are taught to stand strong.
This political nose-to-nose horse race delights me. I am delighting in watching Clinton and Obama going at each other. This is a survival contest between the two. I want to know, with some certainty, which of the two is the strongest. America needs to know this, as well. Our country can only afford to have the strongest of a leader in power. A weak leader will destroy our country.
I am not "tired, drained, overwhelmed and outdone" by any of this. Quite the opposite, I am excited, I am energized and am literally loving this political survival contest.
America will only survive with a tough, strong and cutthroat leader in charge. This is the matter-of-fact way of our world. This is my American Indian worldview.
Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation
May 6, 2008 1:58 PM
Well, Jon is right according to the Clinton News Network aka CNN, Fixed Noise and the MSNBC nitwits the vote is going the way he said. As for black gays, I guess they will vote for the candidate who best meets their needs, although, on gay rights, the candidates are about the same from all accounts, although HRC has did what she does best, make promises that she won't be able to keep if she can steal the nomination.
May 6, 2008 2:23 PM
Hillary IN, Barack NC like everyone knows. And who the hell said Hillary had the gays on lock? Gays are not even exit polled. lol.
May 6, 2008 2:40 PM
D / Ramses comments for readers,
"I would not call it relief to have Mr. and Mrs. Pinocchio in office."
Ah ha! You are deliberately ignoring knowledge all politicians are liars. Clinton lies. Obama lies. McCain lies. All politicians are practiced liars.
Come November, we will be voting for the best liar!
Speaking of Pinocchio, I think you will personally enjoy one of my articles found on the Securities and Exchange Commission's web site,
http://www.sec.gov/comments/s7-08-08/s70808-329.htm
D / Ramses asks a question of interest to me,
"As a member of the Choctaw Nation can you vote?"
I am an American citizen, of course I can vote!
However, when I was born, I was not a "legal" citizen of America nor did I have a "legal" right to vote. This is true of all American Indians. During the late Fifties to early Sixties, laws were passed granting us American citizenship and granting us a right to vote.
Ironic, yes? Here we are, American Indians, the most true and most rightful Americans, yet we were denied citizenship and denied a right to vote. Only by law did we become American citizens.
I take pride in being born a persona non grata, then legally mandated an American. Today, I can truthfully say I was once a nobody, then an American and today, dual citizenship; American Indian and American.
The many have no idea of how much we red meat peoples value our right to vote. I am quite certain black meat peoples appreciate this.
For comical trivia, in my _traditional_ native tongue, white folks are known as, hatak nipi tohbi, and black folks are known as, hatak nipi lusa.
hatak nipi tohbi - person meat white
hatak nipi lusa - person meat black
No gender assignment, no racial assignment, we simply recognize the color of a person's meat. Rather matter-of-fact approach, yes?
Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation
May 6, 2008 2:51 PM
Barack Obama is held accountable for the words of Rev. Wright. A pastor...the Clintons invite a well known drug lord to the white house and very few people care.
I think that those who don't vote for Barack are either just our modern day racists, ignorant or just simply want to vote for a woman.
I do not recommend that anyone vote for a candidate based upon their race or gender alone. That is just simply wrong. But Obama has carried himself very well during this race. Obama also leads in all numbers except super delegates which he is quickly closing in on. The media keeps this going for ratings...but why do the people keep this going?
Real talk...there is no dirt on Obama. There is a ton of dirt on Clinton that can be proved. Clinton lied about Bosnia and no one cares?
In what way would you think of Hillary supporters being that they still support her after she has lied, had drug ties and is losing?
http://urbanworldonline.com/
May 6, 2008 3:19 PM
Great question about the black gays!! I voted for Obama, here in Indiana, and I believe he will either win Indiana or lose by less than 10 points. He will win North Carolina and I hope and pray that Hillary concedes so we can start preparing to whip grandpa McCains tail!
May 6, 2008 4:48 PM
Urban World Online insults my intelligence,
"I think that those who don't vote for Barack are either just our modern day racists, ignorant or just simply want to vote for a woman."
I voted for Clinton. This makes me a racist, makes me ignorant and makes me a sexist.
Oh dear, truly I am a horrible person.
You need to be dragged out into the streets, stripped down naked, then paraded around town for all to see what a hateful person you are truly.
What justification do you have to assume all readers here at The Daily Voice to be so ignorant as to believe your hateful bigot tripe?
Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation
May 6, 2008 6:21 PM
No one cares because they know HRC has no chance of winning in November, even is she manages to steal the nomination. Her train loads of baggage and her sour attitude will play out to the joy of the GOP when Americas remembers why they really hate her and that husband of hers.
And, of course not all those who have voted for her are racists, just the ones who flock to black message boards and spew hate and racial slurs, its not that hard to see which HRC 'supporters' are vile racists, for crying out loud, Stevie Wonder can see through their nonstop postings/rants. So, thnaks for keeping it real, although, Wright is a really one bitter, old man.
May 6, 2008 7:16 PM
Purl Gurl
You have the right to vote for Clinton. No one should take that away from you. But logically...why would citizens vote for someone that has so much dirt on them? Some of the things the Clintons have been involved in can be found here: http://www.clintonmemoriallibrary.com/clintcrimefamily.html
After viewing the link above...what do you think Daily Voice?
Honestly...how can a person vote for someone that lies about landing under gun-fire and takes hard shots of liquor on a campaign trail just to appease voters? I don't blame Hillary...I blame the people that vote for her because she is only doing what people allow her to do and get away with. Hillary only does what she believes her supporters want to see and hear.
And you said:
"You need to be dragged out into the streets, stripped down naked, then paraded around town for all to see what a hateful person you are truly."
Now I never took it there with you or anyone else. That comment my friend is what seems to be very hateful.
People know what the deal is...yes many people vote for Clinton because she is a woman. And yes many people vote for Obama because he is black. Everyone has a different reason for voting. What I'm saying is...logically how can anyone vote for someone that does what the link above shows...
May 6, 2008 9:58 PM
Hateful indeed Urban World, but, its the same anger we have seen from HRC and Bill and just about everyone of their supporters. They are just peeved and enraged beyond all out that this young guy, and a black guy at that, is taking away what they feel was hers and hers alone.
May 7, 2008 1:39 AM
Hey Ms Purl Gurl,
Ms Okpulot Taha from the infamous Choctaw Nation?
The only thing it will cost him is votes from you and WHITE voters who weren't going to vote for him anyway. The rest of us sees CHANGE!
But since you love to give Barack grief
Feast your Navajo eyes on this sweetie pie
Wright And Ridiculous
Of all the strange features of this presidential race, the tarnishing of Barack Obama has got to be the most ridiculous. First Obama was accused of anti-religious elitism. Then he was accused of identifying with the underclass anger of his spiritual mentor. Excuse me, but which is it? Am I supposed to believe that Obama is a supercilious elitist or a menacing ghetto radical? Is he contemptuous of religion or too close to a religious leader? Obama's critics don't bother to say. Meanwhile, real character issues go relatively unheeded.
Start with Obama's turbulent preacher. Yes, Jeremiah Wright says some disgraceful things. But can anyone explain how that changes Obama's qualities as a candidate? Is anyone suggesting that an Obama administration would view AIDS as a government plot to kill African Americans? Or that it would govern from the perspective that the United States is a terrorist nation? Obviously an Obama administration would do no such thing. Which makes the storm over the preacher an absurd digression.
The Wright affair tells us that Obama bonded with someone whose political views are sometimes toxic. But as a young man trying to make sense of his mixed heritage, Obama looked to Wright for spiritual guidance, not political tutorials; as a community organizer, Obama focused on Wright's admirable social work, not his resentment of the white establishment. Indeed, Obama's own views on race and politics were diametrically opposed to those of his pastor. This is the candidate who campaigned for as long as possible as though race were irrelevant -- as though the tantalizing prospect that the United States might elect its first black president were merely incidental. A few months ago, there were those who suggested that Obama was not black enough. Now he is too black? This is preposterous.
If Obama clearly does not share Wright's views, of what precisely is he guilty? Of befriending someone with repugnant opinions? Anyone who condemns Obama on that basis should examine his own circumstances. Real human beings present one another with complex social choices: The dependable work buddy may be unfaithful to his wife; the salt-of-the-earth neighbor may despise Hispanic immigrants. How many Obama critics have themselves been friendly with someone with misguided views? What about Bill Clinton, who counted the one-time segregationist William Fulbright among his mentors?
Are you reading Ms Okpulot Taha from the infamous Choctaw Nation?
George W. Bush has taught us that "you are with us or you are against us" is not a good basis for a foreign policy, and the same is true of much human endeavor. It would be impossible for people to join a political party if they had to agree with everything it stood for. It would be impossible for liberal Catholics to worship if they had to storm out of the church the moment they disagreed with something uttered from the pulpit. As a matter of political tactics, Obama should have avoided tying himself to Wright. But, rather refreshingly, Obama is not one of those politicians who obsessed about his presidential viability from the moment he entered college.
Which brings us to that other attack on Obama: that his comment about blue-collar voters "clinging" to guns and religion makes him an elitist. The remark may have been untactful, as Obama himself said. But what did it tell us about Obama's fitness to be president? Would he use his power to discriminate against churchgoers? His own churchgoing suggests not. Would he control guns? One hopes so. And is he really an elitist snob? After Harvard Law School, Obama could have pursued a career that involved contact only with hypereducated brainiacs like him. But by working as a community organizer and in state politics, he chose a life that put him among ordinary folk. The elitist label is ridiculous.
Are you still reading Ms Okpulot Taha from the infamous Choctaw Nation?
The real character issue, in this campaign as in others, comes down to one thing: Does a candidate have the guts to espouse positions that are not politically expedient? Here there are serious questions about Obama, who pledges to pull out of Iraq no matter what, and who promises both to increase spending and not to raise taxes on anybody making less than $200,000 to $250,000 a year, ensuring the perpetuation of crippling federal deficits. For that matter, there are serious questions about Hillary Clinton, who proposes an irresponsible gas-tax holiday, and about John McCain, who couples gas pandering with a flip-flop on the Bush tax cuts, which he once (correctly) viewed as unaffordable. But these genuine character issues have been shunted aside by the spectacle of Obama's falling-out with his preacher.
The Obama-Wright "revelations" are really a revelation about our political culture: About its failure to distinguish the important from the trivial and about the inevitability that the race card will eventually be played against a black candidate. If the once formidable Obama campaign is knocked off course by these "revelations" in today’s primaries, it will be a travesty.
So there you have it.
RACISM+STUPIDITY+BIAS=DEFEAT
Everybody has flaws even your Hillary!
AND CONGRATULATIONS BARACK FOR TURNING IT OUT IN NORTH CAROLINA AND NARROWING HER WIN IN INDIANA ONLY BY 3 POINTS.
Goes to show you Sweetie White folks are getting over Jeremiah Wright's sermons.
Now maybe you should also!