The end of the 'dream ticket'?

I AM WITH TEDDY AnD JOHN ON THIS ONE. WHY: BECAUSE SHE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A TEAM PLAYER OR FOLLOWER.IT APPEARS HER WAY OR THE HIGH WAY If Clinton is anybody vice presidential candidate she would work to destroy them so she could take office. If you think putting up with her lies and spins in the campaign was ugly, it would be the same in a four year Whitehouse run. With her second in charge would do everything to unseat the president so she could move into his office or in preparation for her on rerun? She has broken the fiduciary (all trust) and as Vice president that kind of ego, race and gender baiting would be far more dangerous.

I agree with Teddy and John on this one.If Clinton is anybody vice presidential candidate she would work to destroy them so she could take office. If you think putting up with her lies and spins in the campaign was ugly, it would be the same in a four year Whitehouse run. With her second in charge would do everything to unseat the president so she could move into his office or in preparation for her on rerun? She has broken the fiduciary (all trust) and as Vice president that kind of ego, race and gender baiting would be far more dangerous.

I've said this before and I'll say it again -- ANYTHING less the proposed Dream Ticket will cause Democrats to LOSE ! =============================================== The attached taken from January 31, 2008 =============================================== POLITICAL NEWS RELEASE Originally Released Thursday, January 31, 2008 Contact Mark S. Allen @773-392-0165 OBAMA/CLINTON - CLINTON/OBAMA IS THE TICKET? "I was one of the first community organizers who Barack Obama met in Chicago over 20 years ago, and I have worked directly with him throughout his political career. I think that he missed an opportunity to explain how his community organizing in Chicago was historic. In 1986, Barack was Project Director for Project Vote, a city-wide voter registration campaign that put over 100, 000 new voters on the books, which set the stage for the historic election of Illinois U.S. Senator Carol Moseley-Braun, the re-election of Chicago's 1st Black Mayor Harold Washington in 1987, and a new Chicago City Council. The fact that Obama and Clinton complimented each other and often used the word "we" in their presentations of course raised the question of whether there could be an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket. That question got a lot of reaction from the audience, and is worthy of consideration. The combination of them both best represents a ticket that is not the Black or White ticket, but the right ticket. As a former staff member on Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Sr's 1988 Presidential staff, I watched how many of our supporters did not support the Democratic nominee Dukakis after Rev. Jackson as the number two vote getter with 7 million votes was not on the ticket. The Democratic Party cannot afford for the excitement and new generation of voters that Obama and Clinton have brought to the process to turn off by the non inclusion of the other candidate on the ticket. Will Obama supporters have the same passion to elect Clinton if she becomes the nominee without Obama as VP? Would Clinton supporters have the same enthusiasm for Obama if he is the nominee without her as VP? A lot of new voters may not understand why the two top vote getters are not automatically the ticket. Based upon my experience of 1988, let me be one of the first to say that I would surely support the Obama/Clinton - Clinton-Obama ticket." Mark S. Allen Associate Editor The South Street Journal Newspaper *Veteran Political activist with over 30 "straight years in public service on local, state and national levels, including 7 years as a national staff member to the Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Sr *Former talk show host on the legendary Black/News Talk Station WVON *Who's Who Among African Americans *Who's Who In Black Chicago

I'm floored.! It is not Ted Kennedy nor John Kerry who is divisive. Hillary Clinton herself is the most divisive person in the Democratic Party. What she did leading up to the Pennsylvania primary, practically breaking bread with Richard Mellon Scaif, was nothing compared to what she did leading up to the West Virginia primary. If one didn't know any better, one would think Hillary Clinton is a racist. At this point, I don't know any better, and neither do a lot of Obama supporters. And, pray tell, where will Bubba be when Hill's is Vice President. Will he be a stay-at-home husband. I don't think so. Hillary Clinton is out to destroy Obama, and if she is in the WH, it will be an inside job. She cannot campaign in earnest for him because after all she has said and done, her supporters won't believe her. They already feel as though Obama has stolen her place in the sun, so why should they help put him in office. This has been a bitter campaign, and the bitterness came from and is still coming from the Clinton campaign. The times that Obama nearly stooped to her level, were times he had to defend himself against her lies. If the party needs a woman to be Veep, there are other capable women in the Democratic Party--Kathleen Sibelius from Kansas, Claire McCaskill from Missouri, or Nancy Pelosi from California, to name a few.

Bob Beckel's article (from Real Clear Politics) presents a scenario which convinces me that I was wrong to assume Obama would not and/or could not have Hillary on his ticket (because he doesn’t want Bill Clinton’s baggage overshadowing his message of change). Beckel says "If Clinton Wants VP, Obama Can't Stop Her." Perhaps an Obama-Clinton ticket is more likely than not: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/if_clinton_wants_to_be_vp_obam.html

The dream ticket is not dead. The fact remains that rather Obama and Clinton's respective styles align or not, its a guarenteed win for them to be on the same ticket. They are not going to throw away the damn election on some experimental choice when they have Hillary right there to insure a win.

The Clinton Campaign has been so ad homiem and destructive that they have given feminism a bad name. They went back to hard old days of Bella Asbug and have undone so much positive work and accomplishments that were wrought with Women, Blacks, Jews, and Whites working together. They had gained a maturity and political responsibility which produced women like Nancy Pelosi Kathleen Sibelius from Kansas, Claire Catskill from Missouri, and political good will real feminism. But the Clinton campaign to win decided to marry militant feminism with the klu klux klan, a marriage made in hell not on the Island of Lesbos and we all suffer. This is why senators Kennedy and Kerry are right, the baggage of the first marriage until it is worked through, would be too damaging and emasculating, for lack of better terms, to sustain a workable relationship.